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Oh don’t worry. Ukrainian sanctions will fix this right up.
Orban owns the whole Europe. And who’s Trump? Trump is laughed upon even in his own country.
What
Orban shits on the heads of the whole Europe and is being paid for that (plus I’m sure Moscow pays him too). Orban is the most important guy there. If he says no, then it is no. And what is Trump? Pfah. Senile degenerate just waiting to be dethroned by the real nazies.
That was the case under Merkel. Today’s standing is that Orbán is going to be deposed, and either flee the country or be jailed come April.
The EU is growing some balls at least, and turned off the money taps a few years ago.
come April
Yeah, April. “Going to be”. That sounds so… pathetic. Even Trump’s “2-3 weeks and we’ll see” sounded better the first 2 times.
The EU is growing some balls at least
Oh. That’ll take a while. You can sit there.
It’s how democracies work.
April is the next election. Orbán is down in the polls, the big question now is whether the new government will get supermajority or just simply win.
And it’s not like the people of Hungary are waiting either. Orbán banned Pride. The result is the single biggest public event since 1956, four hundred thousand people turned out in a country of 8.5 million. He tried to fine people, but he was as powerless to do it as he was to stop Pride.
His events are drawing hundreds while the opposition’s are drawing hundreds of thousands.
At this point, Orbán is pathetic and not even able to appear in a public event, he either visits towns in secret, without telling the public in advance, or he outright closes out the public to speak only to his own press and people. And even there, he is slurring words, stuttering and sweating.
He fired his campaign staff who have been doing his campaigns for 20 years, and will likely fire the next guys as well.
And the EU fixing their bullshit regarding Hungary will not “take a while”. It happened 3 years ago. They sanctioned him, sanctions work, this is the result. People have started to look up and see the problem. It’s done and nothing can undo it.
Hungary may still have a very long way to go, but at least it will be free again.
Is this man the “master of Europe”, or a spent, used up tool of Putin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ufkKMPOKs
Is this man the “master of Europe”, or a spent, used up tool of Putin?
What’s the difference? The result is important, and for now Orban has too much influence on the overall situation. Democracy is a nice thing, but is it democracy? Are people involved? This passive position is of no good. “Eventually everything will be ok”. It won’t. Actions are needed. Active actions. Most problems have a tendency of worsening if not addressed fast. You know, like a health. Imagine a damaged tooth.
Active actions are being done. If they weren’t, Orbán would be nice and cozy. He already had to go home from stirring shit in the EU by the way, and go campaigning, trying to salvage his rule.
People are involved by the way. The representatives of the new government will have primaries, which is a new for Hungary. And again, almost half a million people were out on the streets of Budapest on Pride, but tens of thousands of people protest on a normal week now, with actual events turning out hundreds of thousands.
And peaceful protests do work if they show that the admin is powerless to stop them and so many people are on board. Wait for the 23rd of October, that’ll be a big one.
There are thousands of self-organised groups all across the country, working the streets against Orbán as well.
‘Owns’ and ‘shits on the heads’ are a bit different. Hungary plays it’s role where it’s agreement is required for some EU-wide decision, but it’s utterly irrelevant in any other case and sense. And both EU and hungarians grow tired of how useless corrupt Orban is to everyone but Moscow.
The US have a big leverage due to it’s economical power and influence outcompeting most of the EU combined, and that senile piece of shit now controls it while acting as a doll figure to elites. It is hard for him to hurt Hungary exclusively and not the EU as a whole, right, but what Trump does want is to drop another wrench into the Union’s engine. He doesn’t want Hungary to cut oil, but he’d like for EU to collapse, so there won’t be a unified competitor to the US.
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