Notice that even the source has to admit that the hypothetical territory losses would be for “security guarantees and peace”. And since no ironclad security guarantees are in sight, the question is moot.
IMHO they “should” take a deal like that too. Even after WW2 for Poland itself, and definitely Finland IMHO, that lost territory but weren’t directly absorbed into the SU, I’d imagine the SU meddling in the decades after was the even more painful part.
It also isn’t necessarily the kind of “should” that implies loss of support otherwise, just that if I/they were in that situation, I/they’d take such a deal. I certainly think it should be up to the ukrainians themselves, and would continue to support them whichever choice they made, when it may come available.
They’ve already taken such a deal from the US to give up their nukes for security guarantees, and look where it got them. I wouldn’t trust Putin more than Trump to keep their word.
Yup. Hence why all the talk of ironclad security guarantees, though I don’t even know what they could be at this point to be trusted. NATO membership and bilateral agreements with US, UK, and France? But so long as no serious guarantees are on the table, the question remains moot.
Because Russia is just going to stop trying if Ukraine gives them some land. Idiots.
Notice that even the source has to admit that the hypothetical territory losses would be for “security guarantees and peace”. And since no ironclad security guarantees are in sight, the question is moot.
IMHO they “should” take a deal like that too. Even after WW2 for Poland itself, and definitely Finland IMHO, that lost territory but weren’t directly absorbed into the SU, I’d imagine the SU meddling in the decades after was the even more painful part.
It also isn’t necessarily the kind of “should” that implies loss of support otherwise, just that if I/they were in that situation, I/they’d take such a deal. I certainly think it should be up to the ukrainians themselves, and would continue to support them whichever choice they made, when it may come available.
They’ve already taken such a deal from the US to give up their nukes for security guarantees, and look where it got them. I wouldn’t trust Putin more than Trump to keep their word.
Yup. Hence why all the talk of ironclad security guarantees, though I don’t even know what they could be at this point to be trusted. NATO membership and bilateral agreements with US, UK, and France? But so long as no serious guarantees are on the table, the question remains moot.
If the Nazi imperialistic org known as “NATO” were simply disbanded the world would be a better place
Are you suggesting that Russia isn’t imperialist?
Define Nazi for us
Who was Adolf Heusinger?
They can’t.