• Glytch@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    There was a chance we could’ve mounted enough political pressure that Harris would eventually cave.

    Read this again. Pay attention to how weak of an argument it is. There was a chance she would eventually cave? Come on, no one really believes that, especially when she gave no indication that she believed anything different than Trump or Biden about Israel’s genocide of Palestinians. You just got an “I can change her” vibe from her with no evidence.

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        16 hours ago

        Yes, and I will reiterate: it’s a weak argument. This supported by the fact that it failed to convince enough people for her to win.

        Democrats need stronger arguments if they actually want to win (assuming we have elections in the future).

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          12 hours ago

          It’s reality. It sucks, but it’s the options we were given. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s a weak argument. People like you didn’t vote because you didn’t get your perfect politician that checked every box for you, and here we are with fascist toddlers back in the white house, destroying as much as they can. Congratulations. I’m sure the neoliberals really learned their lesson this time.

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            4 hours ago

            [Ignoring your ignorant and presumptive vitriol.]

            If she had been a better candidate with better arguments she would have earned enough votes to win. No one is owed votes.

            Chicken or egg? Who’s to blame? Voters for not voting for your preferred candidate? Or your candidate for not appealing to the right voters? How did the strategy of winning over “centrist Republicans” work out? Oh it just further alienated actual progressives? Weird, why might that be?

            I’m sure the neoliberals really learned their lesson this time.

            You’d better hope they did if you want Democrats to ever win again.