Thanks for the reply. One thing that baffles me about Lemmy communities is how some contradictory opinions exist side by side without argument. Some praise the open nature of the Fediverse, while others call for the strictest rules on data sharing. Actually, I’m not really sure what the latter group does here.
I would consider that the perfect solution.
One problem is that a solution isn’t obvious. The copyright industry hasn’t succeeded in making a truly effective DRM system. The missing link is lots of surveillance. You need to look for signs of tampering and then arrest people. It’s like with a burglary. Locked doors and windows can’t even stop an amateur for more than a few seconds. But maybe someone notices a window being broken. The world and Europe are moving in that direction but we are not nearly there.
An additional technical problem is that European data rights are complicated. You need to determine who has what rights in the data. AI may be very helpful here.
But the real problem is not technical. The Americans build services that people want to use. European policymakers don’t care if anyone wants to use it. The only concern is to make sure that the wrong use can be stopped. It’s enshittified by design.
One problem is that a solution isn’t obvious. The copyright industry hasn’t succeeded in making a truly effective DRM system.
I would argue that they really don’t want since they know all too well that “1 pirated copy less equal 1 more copy sold” is completely false.
An additional technical problem is that European data rights are complicated. You need to determine who has what rights in the data. AI may be very helpful here.
No, European data rights are not complicated, that is a false myth (source, someone who currently work to provide certifications about the GDPR compliance and other regulations, not myself), unless you want to do something borderline. What the GDPR say is, basically, “you need to ask only the necessary data to provide the service and keep them only the time you need to provide the service (if no other laws say otherwise) and you need to keep them secure”. And explain why you need additional data, eventually, and what do you want to do with them.
We could argue about the “you need to keep them secure” eventually.
But the real problem is not technical. The Americans build services that people want to use. European policymakers don’t care if anyone wants to use it. The only concern is to make sure that the wrong use can be stopped. It’s enshittified by design.
Maybe true, but I think that it is more a mentality problem.
All the social networks are not born from some American policymaker, they were born from some guy that build it and then become a company. Or from a company that had the idea to build it and can afford to work at a loss even for years.
I only stated the obvious: in EU the mentality is different and it is not that easy to get money to have a company going for years without making enough money to pay its cost (infrastuctures, servers, people atc), there are not the VC’s that are present in US.
If that make me part of the industry…
The VCs can hop on a plane and invest the money in the EU, if they think that’s what makes them a profit.
I know some people that regulations should be changed so that European banks can make riskier investments and do VC funding. I don’t see why they would invest in Europe and not in the US, like anyone else. They are all chasing the same profits. European VCs can hop on a plane to Silicon Valley and dump the money there.
I don’t know if deregulating banks is a good idea. I’m skeptical because I remember the 00s. But I don’t have the qualifications to judge.
Thanks for the reply. One thing that baffles me about Lemmy communities is how some contradictory opinions exist side by side without argument. Some praise the open nature of the Fediverse, while others call for the strictest rules on data sharing. Actually, I’m not really sure what the latter group does here.
One problem is that a solution isn’t obvious. The copyright industry hasn’t succeeded in making a truly effective DRM system. The missing link is lots of surveillance. You need to look for signs of tampering and then arrest people. It’s like with a burglary. Locked doors and windows can’t even stop an amateur for more than a few seconds. But maybe someone notices a window being broken. The world and Europe are moving in that direction but we are not nearly there.
An additional technical problem is that European data rights are complicated. You need to determine who has what rights in the data. AI may be very helpful here.
But the real problem is not technical. The Americans build services that people want to use. European policymakers don’t care if anyone wants to use it. The only concern is to make sure that the wrong use can be stopped. It’s enshittified by design.
I would argue that they really don’t want since they know all too well that “1 pirated copy less equal 1 more copy sold” is completely false.
No, European data rights are not complicated, that is a false myth (source, someone who currently work to provide certifications about the GDPR compliance and other regulations, not myself), unless you want to do something borderline. What the GDPR say is, basically, “you need to ask only the necessary data to provide the service and keep them only the time you need to provide the service (if no other laws say otherwise) and you need to keep them secure”. And explain why you need additional data, eventually, and what do you want to do with them.
We could argue about the “you need to keep them secure” eventually.
Maybe true, but I think that it is more a mentality problem.
All the social networks are not born from some American policymaker, they were born from some guy that build it and then become a company. Or from a company that had the idea to build it and can afford to work at a loss even for years.
Ahh. That’s how you’re part of the industry. People without a financial interest aren’t quite so keen on embracing cyberpunk dystopias.
I only stated the obvious: in EU the mentality is different and it is not that easy to get money to have a company going for years without making enough money to pay its cost (infrastuctures, servers, people atc), there are not the VC’s that are present in US.
If that make me part of the industry…
The VCs can hop on a plane and invest the money in the EU, if they think that’s what makes them a profit.
I know some people that regulations should be changed so that European banks can make riskier investments and do VC funding. I don’t see why they would invest in Europe and not in the US, like anyone else. They are all chasing the same profits. European VCs can hop on a plane to Silicon Valley and dump the money there.
I don’t know if deregulating banks is a good idea. I’m skeptical because I remember the 00s. But I don’t have the qualifications to judge.