• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    This kind of shit really leads me to believe that Russia has a sizable chunk of our government bought. The only thing this does is make us weaker on the national stage. Not only makes us a laughing stock with our closest allies (note the weird tariffs with Canada as another example of sabotage), but makes our enemies like Russia comparatively stronger.

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      That, or the rich think they don’t need the masses anymore. They believe the chaos they unleash strengthens their position. They want to punish commoners for almost getting enlightened and coming together during the lockdowns.

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        Oh, they know they need the masses. They’re just forcing the masses to out-breed the death and disease through banning contraceptives and abortion.

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          Maybe. I’m starting wonder if they think they don’t need us. Maybe they think they can automate everything and live off that. Maybe they think they can surround themselves with loyal guards and let everyone else die off.

          To be clear: they’re idiots.

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            Tesla is making AI driven humanoid robots. Ai will also eliminate many categories of jobs.

            The plan seems to be removing the pesky people from the system. They just whine about healthcare and need sleep every night.

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                Unfortunately if it is anything like AI for software development, if the CEOs sense any progress they will fire people first and ask questions later. Even if the technology is subpar.

                When new factories are created in the US, they will be as automated as they can be. Farming, driving vehicles (delivery, taxi, trucking, etc.), unloading trucks, stocking shelves; all of that will be done by robots eventually. Other jobs like entry level office jobs and customer support will be eliminated too and replaced with AI, as well as mid level management and creative work.

                I don’t know if Elon will deliver, but someone will – and there is a ton of money on the line for whoever figures it all out first.

                Maybe we’ll all get to all live in some utopia, but I doubt it…

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                  I think that if utopia is achieved, many of us will have to bleed for it. I am not looking forward to being part of the process…but I don’t think the elite will give anyone a reasonable choice.

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                  When new factories are created in the US, they will be as automated as they can be.

                  Consider coal mining. Even if the Cheetoh-in-charge were to succeed in turning back the calendar to revitalize coal, there’s been over half a century of declining jobs. Automation over time means there are no jobs to come back.

                  I don’t know if Elon will deliver, but someone will – and there is a ton of money

                  Maybe. We know many people will continue to figure out more automation, and yes AI is actually useful, will continue to get better and will be used everywhere.

                  • but I don’t know if anyone has a sustainable business model for ai yet. While there are too many free options, no “killer app”, and relatively high expenses, it looks more like a bubble. We’ll see what is left behind after it pops
                  • robots already are successful in manufacturing, logistics and many other areas and will continue to become ever more useful. But there’s no guarantee humanoid robots ever will be. Coolness isn’t sufficient. Becoming functional is not sufficient. For a humanoid robot to succeed they have to be better than other solutions or cheaper or more effective, or some combination. They might never be
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                Does it even matter if they deliver? While admittedly their whole history has been a gamble with new technology, there is not a known market for those robots. It’s easy for everyone to play with ai because you can start for free. However even if they can get a robot down to the price of a new car, who is buying that? For what?

                It may happen and I’d love to see widespread adoption of humanoid robots, but it’s hard to see this working out for them.

                If tesla has any hope this decade, it is trucks and storage, not ai or robotics

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          They need the masses but no longer as consumers. We’re at the cusp of a new era of indefinite detention of any individual accused of being illegal. Imagine how much the 1% will benefit off mass detention of individuals unendowed of their inalienable rights.

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            “If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania”

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      From what I gather, he couldn’t attack us directly after the Cold War so he hired Trump to occupy it. Centuries old tactic.

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        We can still hope most of them were low information, easily manipulated people. Now that those elected people are let lose on the country, maybe those voters will finally see and understand. It could happen.

        Nah, they’ll just tune out, forget everything that happened and be surprised when they vote for the same thing again because “those people” are scary (and I know this is mostly racist phrasing but should not be limited to racism. Apparently like 10 college and professional athletes across the 360million population are enough to make trans people scary)