• Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        13 days ago

        The thread is about Ukraine. I am all for the genocide in Gaza to stop but can you try not to hijack any post about every other conflict?

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          13 days ago

          It’s not exactly irrelevant when people try to frame “the West” as caring about justice and human rights as our imperial vassals actively conduct a genocide.

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            12 days ago

            You cant really separate between the east and the west here though. Russia is attempting a genocide against Ukraine, China is committing 2 genocides and plans a third.

            Overall “the west” is the side which is recognizing human rights more and every movement trying to change that is coming from russia.

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        13 days ago

        UN Security Council resolutions have demanded Hamas release the hostages taken. This has been ignored by Hamas and thus provided Israel with a reason to continue the war.

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      13 days ago

      No, you’re not understanding what is being said here. The west has always declared China the opponent and they’ll take China on when they finish their other conflicts like Russia. The EU has consistently asked China to stop Russia. China’s just saying the quiet part out loud. Who in their right mind would help you after you constantly called me a threat and told me if Russia falls you’re coming after me?

      Edit for those down voting me, here’s Kallas saying China is next, the person China is talking to in the article.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQTS1RC50A

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        13 days ago

        The west has always declared China the opponent and they’ll take China on when they finish their other conflicts like Russia.

        Always? Citation needed. After COVID, maybe? Or did it start with tramp in 2016, maybe sooner at the 2008 olympics? Certainly in 1993 that was not the case when China entered the WTO.

        And of course: nearly nobody in the EU wanted to fight russia or spend more on defense until forced to open their eyes on russia’s reinvasion of Ukraine in 2022.

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          13 days ago

          At least since Obama.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_foreign_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration

          Here’s an EU based article saying that really it’s been happening since Clinton.

          https://ecpr.eu/Events/Event/PaperDetails/25139

          Always as in before anyone currently in power was in power.

          Now, China is just saying what your thinking. If EU isn’t supporting USA on this, we can talk. Otherwise what do we gain from not keeping Russia afloat?

          Edit btw the point of all of this is China is literally telling the EU how to stop the war. Turn on the US

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            13 days ago

            Yeah, the 1st paper is from 2015, that’s after the Hong Kong protests, when it was finally clear that China was going to stamp out democracy in Hong Kong and Xi Jinping’s new Wolf Warrior diplomacy. Excuse us for being…unimpressed.

            Eh, but I’m not making any predictions, but if russia implodes by repeatedly hitting their head against a wall, you’re cleaning up that mess, not us, he’s your drunken psychotic friend now. We already got plenty scalded trying to rehab them and getting blamed for everything that went wrong.

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              12 days ago

              There are a lot of protests in Hong Kong, but the Hong Kong protests was definitely after 2015.