Earth fixing itself.
“The planet is fine. The people are fucked.”
George Carlin
I just wish it only extended to humans.
Yeah-yeah-yeah. What about the economy though?!
I’m also seeing a troubling lack of consideration for shareholders too 🤔
Well everyone and everything dying will be terrible for the economy long term. But the more important question is: will line go up this quarter?
Of course it will. It doesn’t have to have anything to do with the “real” world. And it hasn’t for a while now. Because the line must go up.
Wouldn’t that be “most” at the 6Billion point?
I see your:
grim calculations for humanity if climate change and growth in population and consumption fueled by cheap energy goes unchecked.
And raise you a:
Number must go up‼️
Insert meme: More! More!
You are going to be SO tired of all that “winning”…
That would probably fix our emissions as well.
Killing the poorest 90% wouldn’t even halve emissions - based on current behaviour (of course a world with only 10% left would cause such a radical restructuring of society it is impossible to say what would happen).
It would slow things down but were the remaining 10% to Jevons the Earths resources it still wouldn’t be enough to prevent catastrophic climate change.
Who will do all of the work for the ruling class then? Not them certainly.
Being working poor and knowing you’ll be part of that statistic…
Knowing your kids will be feels worse.
important question: will i be one of those six billion <crosses fingers>
Are you wealthy?
How many of those deaths are suicides?
If the system collapses most of them will be starvation, exposure, or murder.
You forgot the rampant diseases.
Yeah. Didn’t want to get in the weeds over such a depressing subject. First to go will be those dependent on medication and medical life support for survival, like insulin. Then next will be those without access to clean water, they’ll pick up pathogens and die soon when coupled with the lack of food. Then lack of food and exposure to cold and excessive heat will eat away the rest, along with infections and other diseases, and attacks by other humans. I don’t know that I ever understood peppers because the vast majority of them seem to assume some form of society would re-emerge, but if society ever collapses to the point where one actually needs to hole-up and wait out whatever calamity happened then there won’t be a civilization left. They’ll live long enough to die of an infection or other illness, or their supplies run out. Fuck knows that nobody will likely survive in a group containing the skills to build farmland and have enough animals like a 1600’s village to survive. Think of the support network they had even then that wouldn’t exist. From smiths to charcoal suppliers, sheep and wool, draft animals, etc. Peppers would survive to be the king atop a dead planet.
If the climate isn’t stabilized, farming isn’t going to work out (and neither is pastoralism). The unpredictable seasons affect domesticated ecosystems as well as wild ones, that’s already starting. Gathering is going to be very tricky too. Overall, these human populations, even if they survive, would have a larger chance of dying due to bad unexpected thing, which looks like extinction over a longer timeline as the isolated populations die out. And if anyone mentions hunting, laugh at them.
I plan to die violently pooping at something or someone
Finally we are seeing the benefits!
We didn’t say which 6B.
Probably the ones who have contributed the least to that situation, actually…
Heh, you write probably as if that is still unclear.
If 6 billion people die, do you think the ultra rich are having a good time? They get purged first, and they have no skills just money that is worthless
They think they can retreat to bunkers defended by guns. Living like that would make most of us miserable, but that’s because we aren’t solipsistic psychos like billionaires are. So perhaps they can still have a good time.
No.
… and if you believe differently, please cite the relevant sections from IPCC AR6 to support the statement.
Exaggerating climate science is also climate science denialism.
Do you usually only read one source and decide that’s enough information or is it just because climate science keeps having worse and worse news that you do this?
If you don’t know what the IPCC does I think you should study that first and then reply.
I now know enough to know that AR6 was concluded 2 years ago and since then there has been increasing evidence that our most dire models are actually rather optimistic. Even if we went carbon zero today temperature would still continue to uptick for years do to runaway affects that we were unaware of.
That’s not how climate science works. The IPCC reports detail the current scientific consensus. Single papers do not change the consensus as soon as they are published.
IPCC AR6 on the contrary said things are better than we thought in AR5, and downgraded the likelyhood for the worst scenarios to play out.
Have you read any IPCC reports?
Have you read the experts that point out the IPCC has continuously been overly conservative?
You tried friend. Best to just leave this one be. Some people just want to live in their own world and refute reality even when presented overwhelmingly loads of evidence to the contrary.
You tried save your sanity trust me I’ve gone that road with others before it is not worth your time or energy till they are willing and able to hear you.
Hope you have a great day :)
You really don’t understand how the scientific method works.
That makes you a climate science denier.
So you just picked one single document and shout down any climate opinion not based on that document? Did you even try reading the post?
If you don’t know what the IPCC does I think you should study that first and then reply.
Don’t bother arguing with the doomers here. I think you’re right, but you’re indirectly attacking their nihilism and that makes them uncomfortable. Eventually they’ll find something that makes them want a future or they’ll get old and realize they have nothing.
Every day that monologue from the Matrix where Agent Smith compares Humanity to a Virus is more relevant.
Climate crisis is just the world having a fever, to kill us 🤒
I mean that kinda deflects from the fact that it is only a handful of big industries and our artificial “need” for infinite growth that not only kills us, but a majority of life. Meanwhile, best we can do is participate “critically”. Thanks, i hate it.
Edit: I just checked and the 10 biggest oil and gas-companies have a market share of $3600 Billion. When have last talked about destroying these companies that have evidently fucked us hard. It honestly is a crime that no one shoots their CEOs on a daily bases.
I guess one thing we can do is document the causes of our demise so that maybe the post apocalyptic historians can warn the survivors.
There won’t be another technologically advanced society on earth to repeat our mistakes. All the easily accessible resources needed have long been turned into infrastructure that will degrade into unusable waste by the time the planet has healed and surviving humans would be capable of making use of it again.
Were warning everyone right now with the most sophisticated communication network ever imagined and it’s doing fuck all.
As far as sci-fi literature is concerned, religious cults could be a “solution“. Just look how WH40k and Dune approach AI. Also, those cults solved one problem, but caused a long list of new problems, so…
Lots of viruses don’t kill their host, and in return we dont try to eradicate those but they are casualties of an immune response, so the metaphor is still apt imo.
Meh, cyanobacteria managed the same thing without industry or capitalism. It just happens sometimes.
That is a pretty weird reaction to something that can be prevented and i am not sure how it helps. But i guess ignorance and apathy are a good way to cope with hiw the world has turned out.
If we as humans hadn’t invented agriculture and lived purely as hunters and gatherers, the planet coul only support 1-10 million people.
We have spent the past 10000 years fine-tuning how to abuse and exploit this planet, without consideration. It’s not the companies skimming the cream who are to blame. It’s the whole idea of us feeling entitled to just have whatever the planet has
to offerUnfortunately, more populous societies are more successful in dominating the others, so natural selection brought us to this point. Problem is we developed technology faster than our genetics could adapt.
It’s a better image than “We have to save the planet!”.
It’s not about the planet, dumbass! It’s about us, human lives! The planet doesn’t care if it is a bit warmer or if there is human life on it.
More like cancer or metastasizing tumor growth.
I hope to be dead before the water wars start.
They’ve already started. But they’ve been happening where it doesn’t matter much to Western media.
Except Israel-Palestine. Where water has been used as a weapon. But has been brushed aside by other issues.
