If you truly believe this, you need to take a step back from one or more echo chambers, because you’ve lost touch with reality.
Trump waffling on the topic, without any ‘hard’ evidence, has already caused momentum in the opposite direction.
You admit, within your sarcasm, that you’re guessing at the rate of incidence.
That was the entirety of my point, really.
The “undercurrent of hostility” exists only in your imagination. I just stated some facts that contradict the assertion, which I think is fair to say is much more hostile in nature than anything I wrote, ironically.
I certainly never compared Mexico or anything in it to feces, anyway.
most of the documented infractions were traffic or immigration offenses.
“Have you ever tried sugar or PCP?” --Mitch Hedberg
It makes perfect sense for deportees to be deported for immigration offenses–that’s basically THE reason to deport someone in a country. Don’t see anything controversial about that.
But it looks like “traffic” is thrown in (indeed, mentioned first) to make it sound more sensational–after all, that sentence is still technically accurate if it was 99% immigration offenses and 1% traffic offenses.
I got the feeling that if you considered traffic only, “most” would no longer be accurate, so I looked over the article. Lo and behold (or don’t), no figure at all for traffic at all. Not even a mention of it after that line.
I hate these underhanded rhetorical ‘maneuvers’–unfortunately, when the spin leads to a statement that makes the ‘right team’ look good, too many people happily swallow the result, no matter how disingenuous it might be.
It shouldn’t be only the ‘other team’ that pushes back against bullshit like this.
How many people has that happened to? Surely you can show that it’s happened a statistically-significant number of times, to talk about that as if it’s a normal/typical course of action.
Or has alarmist media made you assume it’s a common event, when it isn’t?
Not offended, just pointing out the objective absurdity of the comparison, on the axis of overall average danger.
Don’t project your emotional response onto me.
We are talking about the risk to travelers.
Where the travelers are traveling to, and away from, generally tells you all you need to know about where the overall quality of life is better.
Again, Mexico’s net migration is literally negative. If two bordering nations have one nation that has a net loss of population to emigration, and the other has a large net positive from immigration from the bordering nation, saying that the former is “bread” and the other is “shit”, sounds pretty ridiculous on its face.
Not to mention that it comes with it the heavy implication that you know better than the majority of those who actually undertook the endeavor of leaving their home country behind in search of better surroundings.
I see what you’re implying. However:
Homicide has been the leading cause of death [in youths age 1-19] since 2017 in Mexico…it reached 6.5 deaths per 100,000 people in 2022.
But in Figure 1 here, it shows the rate among US children to be about 1.5 per 100,000, in the same year, 2022.
Children are, likewise re the general population, four times more likely to be murdered in Mexico as in the US.
Also worth pointing out that in 2022, the rate for only Mexican children (6.5) is greater than the rate for all ages in the US (6.3). That fact should speak volumes all on its own.
Edit: Never stops being funny to see a simple, plainly-laid-out debunking of an assertion, with cited evidence, downvoted by ideologues who apparently just can’t handle having their narratives challenged.
What the base murder rate doesn’t tell you is that over 90% of the murders are by cartel members to other cartel members, which means that only 10% or less of the murders are happing to a random bystander.
And what makes you think the type of murder breakdown isn’t similar in the US? Most of the murders there are gang violence etc. as well.
The fact that Mexico’s raw number of annual murders is higher than the US’s, despite being a much, much less populated country, is not something that can just be handwaved away.
There is a reason Mexico’s net migration rate is negative.
You’re literally 4 times more likely to be murdered in Mexico as in the US, according to both countries’ own statistics.
Edit: lol, imagine downvoting a plain fact.
Yeah, never mind that the murder rate per 100k in Mexico is quadruple what it is in the “backwater” US (25.2 vs 6.3). It’s flawless and beautiful, and the US is just horrible and worse in every way than there and everywhere else, “shit”, as you said.
Wonder why so many people are trying to immigrate there, then, hm. Also, Mexico’s got more people trying to get out than get in, how strange.
Ah, what do all those people know, anyway? They’re just making the decision to completely uproot their lives and go to another country for fun, not because they’re desperate for a better life!
As much as I’d like the justice of having her prison sentence extended by the length of time each player would have been facing, I don’t think it’s a good idea in general. Wouldn’t want to discourage survivors of rape from coming forward with legitimate accusations due to fear of repercussions if the evidence is not sufficient to convict their attacker.
I can’t believe how often I still see this sentiment.
This does not make any sense. Do not equate ‘the accused wasn’t convicted’ with ‘we have proof the accusation was a deliberate lie’, the latter absolutely does not automatically follow from the former.
A separate trial would need to occur to convict the false accuser–the lack of a conviction in the accused’s trial, in and of itself, would obviously (I’d think) not be sufficient to levy any sort of punishment on the accuser.
The only people a hypothetical measure like this would be discouraging are the false accusers. No actual victim, nor even anyone whose accusation is false for reasons other than them lying (e.g. mistaken identity) would be affected at all.
It’s important to take this weapon away from those people malicious enough to lie about something like this. A much more severe punishment for being proven to have tried to ruin someone’s life this way is a good step in that direction, I think. No one should have the power to ruin someone’s life with a single lie.
The Innocence Project website is a sobering look at what happens when there is nothing deterring false accusers from wielding that weapon.
That’s your assumption, not a fact. If hard evidence of Donald Trump literally raping a child was made public during his last campaign, I’d bet my life savings he wouldn’t be President today.