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  • harc@szmer.infotoEurope@feddit.org•“If a colonel couldn’t do anything, what could I do?”: A Belarusian border guard’s confession on how Belarus and Russia deliberately sparked a refugees crisis in EuropeEnglish
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    3 days ago

    I meant bogus as in “these refugees clearly aren’t the problem they’re being made out to be by EU countries,”

    more proof of underlying instability than success of the scheme.

    They’re made into a bigger problem by Russian funded far-right parties. As tired as this term is - it is a psyop, destabilisation campaign. A provocation does not need to be of a massive scale to have outsized effects.

    Feel free to research the drop in support for refugees in Poland this has caused. Support for human rights is dipping bacause of the fact, that these people are clearly used by a hostile regime and this again “proves” right wing narrations about imigrants being a “5th column” in general.

    not in the sense that what Belarus is doing isn’t insanely evil.

    I mean, what Belarus is doing here is on the same level as telling someone they kinda stink in the hopes that they commit suicide

    Yeah, no your right, pushing migrants on to well guarded wirefances at gunpoint and into the swamps and a forest that’s more like a jungle than anything you’ve seen is cool, just like edgy internet bulling, nothing more.
    Maybe you wanna talk to some people who were finding the bodies? I used to live with some of the crew that was (and still is) saving people there. Alternatively theres a movie; “Green Border” by Holland is a dramatized but mostly honest if at points tacky account of whats going on. Its usefull as its more than activist can openly say at the moment.

    as I said above 17000 is peanuts

    Thats the number of people cought isnt it?

  • harc@szmer.infotoEurope@feddit.org•“If a colonel couldn’t do anything, what could I do?”: A Belarusian border guard’s confession on how Belarus and Russia deliberately sparked a refugees crisis in EuropeEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Polands homogenity is a problem, absolutly. The data source your using is not up to date tho, there was some 1.5m people crossing from Ukraine alone in the first year of Russian invasion. Currently in most polish cities your as likely to hear Belarusian or Ukrainian on the streets as Polish. Plus sizable part of migration is hidden as “repatriation”, just up until now nearly anyone in Belarus or Siberia could get polish citizenship by proving their Polish heritage.
    But forcing people over the swamps and primival forrest in the middle of a harsh winter is not a sollution. the people who are counted here are a guesstimate. They did not register as refugees in Poland as our last two regimes block it, and most likely neither they did in Germany or whereever they went on as they would be returned to Poland and likely deported.

    Im pretty sure the bodies activist kept finding in the border zone before being pushed back by millitary special zone were not bogus. I hope your concer is not just an attempt to excuse a successful attempt to destabilise our country, as thats to this manufactured crisis Polish already far right politics took an even stronger turn to the fascist side, including the supposed liberal parties. Thats what the play was about.