Was surprised no one bothered to post this give how big of a reaction this story got.

Wanted to post the update and correction cause that deserves to be seen just as much. This seems like a reasonable, thoughtful handling of the issue.

I still don’t really wanna use Ubuntu though 😅

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    I don’t get the hate for Ubuntu. It’s easy to use, and there is nothing nasty you are forced to use, e.g. you can choose how much non-foss stuff you want to install, analytics are opt-in, etc.

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      my only real problem is snaps. and how often they seem to come up with community-hurting stuff like snaps.

      like when they put amazon ads in ubuntu. i’m pretty sure they were sending your searches to amazon at some point. or when they decided to fork gnome 3 instead of helping the team fix it properly.

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      The initial thing that gave me the ick was when Amazon was integrated into their search for money.

      Unity is also pretty bad. Laggy, weird, and it just isn’t cool looking

      I run kubuntu and Ubuntu server on a couple of my machines, so I am not a total hater, but lately I’ve been moving to other distros.

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      I think they’ve had a number of controversies over the years, but I think the big frustration people have at the moment is really just that snaps are kind of a crummy thing in several respects, don’t have an open source backend, and often don’t work as well as flatpaks (to my understanding)

      The increasing commitment to going down that path is a big turn off for many, and disqualifying for some.

      That being said, I have used and been happy with Ubuntu in the past. I think some of the dislike is just motivated by “thing popular”, especially since it’s so popular with folks new to linux who are still figuring things out

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        Just here to add that, yes, Snaps are very broken. Do not use them if you value your time or well-being.

        The annoying thing is that Canonical dishonestly co-opts your apt invocations for snap installations, so you’re likely to waste hours of your life trying to figure out why the thing you installed doesn’t work or takes forever to launch randomly. And they keep Snapifying more of their distro, so even things like GNOME packages are only available as Snaps.

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          Thats kinda worse even than I thought :/

          Thank you for sharing additional perspective I appreciate it!

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      Honestly, I don’t think Snaps are so bad. Canonical’s top market is enterprise, and Snaps are ideal for deploying applications in these environments. If you’re an end-user, you can literally just uninstall the runtime

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        Snaps are bad for two reasons:

        1. The backend is proprietary & the client doesn’t support other backends without modifying the source code
        2. For some packages, doing apt install installs the Snap instead

        There’s no good reason for either. Canonical is simply setting things up so they can squeeze money out of their users by enshittifying over time.