The Senate has passed a bill making Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) the U.S.'s largest interior law enforcement agency with funding for Donald Trump’s immigration enforcement agenda higher than most of the world’s militaries, including Israel’s.

Pending its passage in the House of Representatives, Trump’s bill could mean a massive increase in ICE funding as part of an immigration enforcement agenda worth $150 billion over four years.

This figure is more than the annual military budget of Italy, which at $30.8 billion, is the world’s 16th highest defense spender for this year according to tracker Global Fire Power.

It is also higher than military spending for Israel, ($30 billion), the Netherlands ($27 billion) and Brazil ($26.1 billion).

  • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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    Is anyone still pretending ICE is about immigration? ICE is Trump’s SS, and they just got funding beyond any dictator’s wildest dreams. Good luck with your totalitarian police state.

    Edit: I want to retract my last sentence. It was callous and stupid. My heart aches for the people who fought against this.

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        Its probably time we all become the gun nuts at least while they still let us

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          There were already talks in the p2025 circles about ceasing civilian firearms in some fashion and then allowing “permits” at some future time for “loyal” gun owners. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll still try it.

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            Actually really curious as to the exact wording of this.

            Because I wonder if this one in particular were better publicized, if it would turn some percentage of hardcore single-issue 2A types against the regime, if they put their money where their (very loud) mouths are.

            It seems like it wouldn’t work, but I imagine if we can broadcast a lot of “Are you STILL so sure they’re not the bad guys?!” messages with receipts, it could eventually change some minds.

            Even if they want to get back to arguing with us over the dinner table when the dust settles, we need everyone we can get.

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                Your integrity and commitment to transparency and truth is most honorable and appreciated.

                Thank you for the update and for being a shining example the rest of us should follow. Stay safe out there. <3

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                  I appreciate that, it is a thin line to ride, social comments can be whatever they want, do you want a free dopamine hit? Or hope to share information even when you end up being wrong in the process? It can even be affected by current moods.

                  For whatever it is worth, I just try to hopefully post enough helpful stuff to overall average being useful versus accidentally spreading disinformation. Although everyone trying to be their own truth filter alone is very exhausting. Especially without inducing bias. Not looking for credit in this either, just, I hope we could all aspire to be better-er, even if only a tiny bit.

                  Also, just human, so not all posts are gold, or bronze, hahahaha…

                  Stay safe!

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    We’re probably nearing the point where Americans will start trying to get over the border wall and into Mexico.

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        I can totally see this coming.

        The developed world has a population growth problem. Population growth has slowed or reversed in many countries, but the global economy is designed around infinite growth, fed by an infinitely growing pool of workers and customers. Then when they retire they can be taken care of by the infinitely growing population of young people.

        It takes zero imagination to picture this administration forcing “high value human resources” to remain in the country, including putting them on no fly lists. Unfortunately since they are stupid, the brain drain has already started.

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    What a stupid thing to waste money on.

    You could save some of that money and just enforce rules and fines on the people who hire undocumented workers. You’ll get money from fines and people will stop hiring those without papers. It’s almost like the problem will take care of itself.

    Oh wait, that’s right. This is all about hurting brown people, breaking up families, throwing sick kids in cages, and making them suffer.

    Nevermind.

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      Leave the US. If you have expertise you’ll be easily welcomed into most countries, if not, there is are a lot of countries you can still move to that are not police states. Either way you’ll stop paying/supporting and supporting US fascism with your work. The immigrants your government is so eager to deport have been through worse.

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          People with far fewer resources than some of the poorest Americans make treks across continents. I’m sure most Americans could figure it out if they really wanted to.

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            All right well I’m not going to do this back and forth about it with you. You know nothing about me or my situation.

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              You are right. My comments shouldn’t be taken as precise advise for specific situations, but I stand by the generalities. I’m general though, if a family with less than a grade 5 education can make a cross-continent trek in hopes of a better life, most US citizens are well positioned to immigrate elsewhere.

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              Have you considered getting one of those floaty things with pushy arms that go in water?

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              Beyond personal experience and the experiences of colleagues, friends and family going to/from a wide variety of countries, and how different countries structure their legal immigration process, not much I guess.

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        The US is an odd duck when it comes to taxes

        The USA is one of the few countries of the world which levies personal income tax on all its citizens: not only on its residents - citizens or non-citizens - but also on its citizens who do not live in the country. All citizens of the United States are taxed under the same personal income tax system, regardless of whether they live in the country or abroad.

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          You only have to pay them if you move back to the US (and want to work). It’s not like other governments disclose your finances to the US.

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            Absolutely not true. If you want anything to do with US banking, social security, Embassy services, you better pay up. And every bank you open abroad is literally required to disclose to the IRS that you have a bank account with them. Source: I live abroad.

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    But we can’t afford to feed kids or have medical care or research for cancers and diseases or build housing for everyone.

    But we can buy expensive bombs galore to drop on families and build concentration camps.

    Neat.

    So, when do we all stop paying taxes and stop going to work and bring the whole system crashing down to stop this madness?

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      Just waiting for a large group to start a movement to call for the general strike. We all need to agree on when we start otherwise small pockets of strikers will just get fired. We need the collective to start all at once so we protect each other’s jobs by being unanimous.

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      I’d argue they are more like the SS at this point. Consider: the point of the Gestapo was to police the German population and root out internal threats to the Nazis. The SS, on the other hand, were a military branch that were responsible for eradication of the “undesirable elements”. I feel like the latter is a more fitting mold for ICE.

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        The SS had many tasks. One of them was to protect the regime against coups from the army or SA.

        At the beginning the SA also ran concentration camps, the SS took them over soon.

        SS, Gestapo, and regular police were all under Himmler’s command via the Reichssicherheitshauptamt.

        Gestapo was formed from preexisting secret political police forces.

        Trumpism operates differently than Nazism. However Trump needs a loyal oppression infrastructure to build a more authoritarian system. ICE is on its way to enable that.