It’s not like anybody expected Starmer to show some backbone and call Trump a racist, authoritarian , warmongering dick

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    9 hours ago

    A different way of ensuring the safety of the UK would be to work with our European allies and together build up our defences.

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      10 hours ago

      I don’t know everyone thought he would be a bit more sensible because he used to be a human rights lawyer, but apparently not.

      Obviously I didn’t expect him to call Trump out, nothing would be gained from doing that. But he could stop fawning over him quite so much

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      21 hours ago

      You obviously don’t remember Tony Blair fawning over Bush. Rode with him into battle. Oh wait, no. Started an illegal war that we’re all still paying the price for.

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    23 hours ago

    When the King of NATO pays attention to you, you speak softly, especially when the King of NATO has a massive fragile ego.

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    Politician massages the ego of the world’s most powerful toddler world leader, because it’s a proven effective strategy. More at 11.

    Anybody who has a memory beyond that of a goldfish would know that Starmer has been ramping up on domestic and European defence spending in light of Russia’s continued aggression, that our 6th Gen GCAP jet is progressing well (which doesn’t have US involvement), we’ve been signing defensive pacts with various European countries as well as a few in South America, plus Australia, and we declined to join the US and Israel on their strikes on Iran.

    The headline is clearly trying to bait readers into thinking we’re taking a subservient position to the US and letting them handle everything. Objective reality is that Starmer has been shifting away from the US for defence, while occasionally giving diplomatic lip service.

    I appreciate it’d look ‘based’ if Starmer called Trump a moron on Twitter, but it would do nothing other than damage us economically and diplomatically. I’m glad pragmatism is winning over populism in this case, tbh.

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      And all of that would be okay if it weren’t for the fact that he’s also clamping down on protest, attempting to implement population tracking via government issued ID cards, has implemented draconian internet crackdown laws, and won’t shut up about immigration, despite the fact that even labour’s own polling indicates that people aren’t that bothered about it.

      What happened to all of the good policies that people actually voted for like citizens initiatives, or the commitment to having a committee to discuss electoral reform. When did all that go?

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        clamping down on protest

        What clamping down on protest? Charging violent thugs in the race riots last year? I wouldn’t count that. Protesting is different to rioting. Charging people for supporting a proscribed group? That’s fair enough. I’ve been to a number of pro Palestine protests, and nothing bad has happened. To the contrary, the government has been cutting ties with Israel and shifting towards Palestine.

        population tracking via government issued ID cards

        How? I don’t think a right to work check counts as tracking.

        implemented draconian internet crackdown laws

        Fair enough, the OSA is a bit crap. Unfortunately it has broad support, both from politicians and the public.

        and won’t shut up about immigration

        Like it or not, that’s what the electorate wants. And he’s here to govern the country, not just Labour supporters.

        What happened to all of the good policies

        Those have been getting implemented, but you don’t hear it in many headlines.

        You will never have a government you agree with on every issue.

        Even the government themselves will have to do things they don’t want to do, either for parliamentary, media, or electorate support, or things like fiscal reality. Unfortunate, but that’s the real world.

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      15 hours ago

      Starmer has been ramping up on domestic and European defence spending

      In complete accordance with the USA’s orders? These were the USA’s orders to the UK. https://www.war.gov/News/Speeches/Speech/Article/4064113/opening-remarks-by-secretary-of-defense-pete-hegseth-at-ukraine-defense-contact/

      Is anything Starmer has done in conflict with these orders? Has he done anything that makes it harder or impossible to follow these orders in the future that shows that he’s disregarding them? Otherwise, the specific examples you gave are in line with following the USA’s orders so far.

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    23 hours ago

    Worst guy I’ve ever voted in, Starmer. And I voted for Biden. I’ve learned my lesson, never voting strategically again. Sucker’s game.