He wants to exclude Biden voters from the $600 Trump tariff rebate checks?! The ones Trump got for us?
The same Trump that was best friends with Jeffery Epstein up until his suspicious suicide? You know, that known pedophile that Trump said “liked them young?” Remember when Trump wrote him a weird birthday card? That was odd for a president to do that. Trump did say he liked to grab women by the pussy. That was weird too.
Wait what were we talking about again? Oh yeah the $600 “sorry we dismantled your somewhat functioning government” check I probably won’t get. Cool.
You mean best friends until Epstein ‘stole’ one of the minors working in the spa of his golf club?
He really is resorting to his lamest trick which was the Covid checks. I bet you anything he’s going to sign them like last time.
he has to sign them by hand or they dont count! no stamps or autopens either!
This headline is a bit alarmist.
“I mean, you know, the rich people don’t need it … what I mean by that is all those Democrat donors of Wall Street, all these hedge fund guys, who all hate the tariffs, by the way.”
So he is basically just implying everyone who is poor voted Trump, and everyone rich voted Biden. It’s basically a neutered version of class consciousness with a tribal mindset. Which is exactly the type of class consciousness I would expect Hawley to want his constituents to have. He’s still being disingenuous, but he’s not (as of right now) suggesting that we keep voter records to punish people for wrongthink.
Meanwhile, Trump Admin requested the voter records for San Francisco county. Now I wonder why he would want that? 🤔
It’s cute that he thinks that Wall St hedge fund guys are Democrats
How? Your vote is supposed to be anonymous. Unless he just means registered democrats
The foxes are guarding the hen house.
Jokes on him. I’m registered republican.
European here, how does that “register with a party” thing work?
You just check a box. That’s all.
The difference is usually (but not in all states) which party’s primary you can vote in.
I’m registered Democrat which means I can vote to select which candidates the Democratic Party is sponsoring
I love that there are two parties, one that represents all of America, and one that represents half of America, and the half side keeps getting elected? Do you want ants, America? Because that’s how you get ants
I love that you think either one of them represents all of America.
You are right, neither of them do. At least one isn’t trying to cut the throats of half the country though. Nice rebuttal! One is willing to put aside differences and find middle ground, the other wants to throw anyone who disagrees in a deep dark prison so they never see the light of day. Totally both sides though, ammirite?
You are right, neither of them do.
Duh.
Nice rebuttal
It wasn’t meant to be a rebuttal, it was meant to be a mildly condescending statement of an obvious truth
Totally both sides though
What if I told you that two things can suck, at the same time, even if they’re not exactly identical? If your choices are losing a toe or losing a leg, of course most folks would choose the toe. They’d have to be real douchebags to cheerlead for the people who cut their toe off though.
Which is exactly why the Democratic party stagnates around indecision. Every issue is “yeah, but…” Where as the Republican party just ignores literal crimes in their midst, because he’s “their guy”. This isn’t inherently an American problem, it’s a political one. Who is cheerleading? Both things can be true too, one is less evil but still needs to be fixed, it’s a lot better than literally chopping your own foot off with a blunt shovel and blaming the other guy. I’ve always been taught and discovered myself that one must always challenge authority, and to beware anyone promising you exactly what you want to hear.
Who is cheerleading?
You are, when you say they represent all Americans. They represent their donors. They give lip service to all Americans.
Oh shut up. What political party doesn’t? I’m waiting…
You see me claiming that any political party “represents all Americans”?
Ants?
All Nazis Trolling Shit.
It’s a thing. you wouldn’t get it.
Good thing I’m not solely dependent on you for information haha
That is a very good thing. I would not recommend using me as a source for anything!!
oh boy, 600 whole dollars. Woohoo. That’ll cover like 3 months of price increases due to the tariffs.
my rent is 1600$ for 900 sq ft lmao
Doesn’t that cover healthcare for the millions of people losing Medicaid and ACA plans?
It covers 45 seconds of healthcare for them.
Gonna need that in number of eggs
That’s 3 weeks of groceries for my family. Might finally get to buy a steak for dinner.
To be honest, I’m just looking forward to the massive tax savings and ridiculously lowered tax bill I’m one billion percent sure is going to materialize in 2026 from all the DOGE savings we’ve attained. Totally holding my breath on that one. Do cremated remains even pay taxes? Who the fuck am I kidding, this is the USA, of course they do.
How about you and I team up and throw a party, the size of which directly scales with the savings we experience this year? Of course, any tax savings must first be offset by cost of living increases. Can one throw a party of negative size?
Can one throw a party of negative size?
That’s called a revolution.
I think thats just called crying alone in your room
The rich people don’t need it .
He means millionaires like him?
Wait… they’re doing rebate checks? I thought these tariffs were supposed to magically cover the overwhelming budget deficits? And how exactly will they do that when it’s being distributed as free money?
Literally trying to bribe their terrible ideas into being popular, while blowing the deficit out even further. 600$ will finally convince Americans their economy is doing well and isn’t barrelling towards utter catastrophe at mach speeds. Astounding work.
Well, that certainly seems fair. After all, even though I’m a Leftist and I detest the majority of Dems, I still voted for Kamala against Trump and that makes me a traitor.
It’s only $600 per person? One time right
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Shit like this is a good way to get a dude in a uniform knocking at your door.
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So you don’t want to boost the economy and businesses?
Conservatism is entirely “in-group to protect, out-group to hurt”. So, so. They don’t. They are worse then toddlers.
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America - the land of “people should be punished for voting the ‘wrong’ way.”
It’s amazing that all it took was a few months of Trump in office for Republicans to stop even bothering to pretend to be anything other than overtly and explicitly anti-American - to out themselves as deliberate and even enthusiastic enemies of every single thing that ever made America great…
Conservatism is, at its root, monarchist. The original writers and thinkers were focused on preserving authoritarian rule, then upon how to build and maintain hierarchies of society where people rule over others.
They’ve never been interested in democratic ideals unless it suits them to reinstate a dictatorship.
It must be such a radically different mindset to live in. Like, I can’t imagine ever feeling enthusiastic about enforced hierarchies and monarchy.
Social mobility feels the most liberating, and social constraints the most confining. How can anyone feel differently? I genuinely do not understand.
Weren’t we supposed to be in suppprt of free markets? Aren’t those supposed to empower people to make deals with other people on their own terms, create value, compete, and prosper? Enforced hierarchy and oligarchy feels like not at all that.
It must be control-freakery which, again, I cannot relate to at all.
The early conservative thinkers wrote about the French Revolutions and the rise of egalitarian thinking meant that something must take the place of monarchies to decide the social order. They preferred war as the measure of who should be the leaders, but that money and wealth could be a substitute. This led to Capitalist concepts infesting the right wing since monarchies are off the table.
Innuendo Studios has some great videos summarizing the alt right, conservatism, and Christian nationalism if you’re interested:
Regarding the mindset issue, it might be more baked into people than we’d like. Two great books on the topic are:
The Authoritarians by Altimeter
The Righteous Mind by Haidt
They also have videos summarizing the works in presentations and interviews. It seems that people end up having shadings of authoritarian drives, which means they’re happier living under someone’s commands and will work to preserve hierarchies despite the harm it causes others. Whether it is socialization or biological I don’t know.
To sum up: some people want to be ruled and they’re currently tearing the US down to let a king rule over the rubble.
I hate everything about this. Because it’s probably spot on.
So, what is to be done about authoritarians?
What are those of us who simply want to live free and be left alone (and leave others alone, if they’d only tend to their own business) to do?
Maybe the answer really is guillotines idk. The paradox of protecting liberalism with illiberal means and all that.
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Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre were not anti-monarchist at all. Rather the opposite. If you’re thinking of the founding fathers of the United States then you’re not having the same conversation as who you replied to.
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there is going to be another election
There won’t be
There will be another election. There has to be on order for Congress to be seated in Jan 2027. The only question is how ratfucked it will be.
All the talk of emergency redistricting in Texas is actually an encouraging sign. Because it means that they aren’t confident in the outcome of the next election, and need to ratfuck it further.
Agree. They either need to go Putin’s way - rig the elections badly from within, or go full Cesar way and seize the congress, potus seat, and everything else
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That’s a bold assumption.
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Yes.
