The announcement follows Newsom’s 2024 executive order, which directed encampment cleanups after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling granted state and local governments more authority to remove them.

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    The governor’s office stated that the task force will prioritize sites deemed unsafe and collaborate with local governments to connect individuals with shelter, health care and substance use services.

    So much is not covered in rage bait titles.

    this is the same tactic that got us trump this second time.

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      When all encampments are deemed unsafe and local services are already stretched to the breaking point, I think we can be justified in calling this out for the performative anti-homeless bullshit it is.

      Nothing short of a complete reorganization of the economy so that working class people are prioritized instead of billionaires will fix this problem though.

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        Agreed with the second statement but the first is just abandoning people instead of helping them and that is negligence.

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          Newsom wants to clear out homeless encampments without expanding the services necessary to ensure they won’t just build an encampment somewhere else. That seems like abandonment to me.

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            without expanding the services necessary to ensure they won’t just build an encampment somewhere else.

            Based on what? The article stated the housing dept is involved. So where are you getting this information from?

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              The article linked a previous piece that has more context: https://ktla.com/news/california/homelessness-experts-weigh-in-on-newsoms-executive-order-on-encampments/|

              “Kushel applauded the Newsom administration for addressing the ongoing crisis and its root cause but noted that California would have to make strides in closing the income and housing cost gaps so people can afford housing while also working to increase capacity at shelters so more unhoused individuals could utilize that option.”

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                Yes that’s why he’s involved housing. It said it in the article had you actually read it.

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                  I did read the article, there’s no need to be a condescending prick.

                  It doesn’t say anywhere in the article that he’s actually increasing housing, just that he’s “connecting” people with housing services. The article I linked then says that housing services in the state are stretched past full capacity.

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      Maybe he can send trans people to gulags too. After all, Newsom’s message seems to be “Hey, I heard you like fascists… vote for me! I can do a fascism too!”

      Experience has shown that trying to out-fascist the fascists always works really well for centrists. Anything but the compassionate, progressive politics people desperately want.

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      Trump has started going after the homeless. I can see Newsome taking action to keep Trump from declaring it an issue in California and sending in the National Guard and or the military. This may be a preemptive measure to address some radical moves by the current federal administration.

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        Trump has started going after the homeless. I can see Newsome taking action to keep Trump from declaring it an issue in California and sending in the National Guard and or the military.

        He was going after the homeless before trump took office.

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    as described, it doesn’t seem as bad as the title

    but we all know the reality will not be as it is described

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    Here’s hoping that AOC or some other progressive wins the white house. Newsom, while better than Trump, is still shit.

    As for Cali, I am hoping for Katie Porter or likeminded folk to take leadership when Newsom vacates his office. The homeless and everybody else needs help from someone who genuinely gives a damn.

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      he had so little influence after his sf mayorship, he tried to get elected a couple times statewide, but hes just not good overall. plus he doesnt really capture people outside of montery or rich people anyways.

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      Would bet cash money the DNC selects- I mean uh he fairly wins the DNC primary for next election cycle lol.

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    Encampment sweeps kill.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/portland-homeless-deaths-multnomah-county

    But although the city spent roughly $200,000 per homeless resident throughout that time, deaths of homeless people recorded in the county quadrupled, climbing from 113 in 2019 to more than 450 in 2023, according to the most recent data from the Multnomah County Health Department. The rise in deaths far outpaces the growth in the homeless population, which was recorded at 6,300 by a 2023 county census, a number most agree is an undercount…

    These deaths came during the same period that Portland began a two-pronged response to public pressure over homelessness. City leaders began moving homeless people out of public view by removing tents at a rate far surpassing those of its West Coast peers. Since 2021, it carried out 19,000 sweeps, and it dismantled over 20 encampments per day in 2024, according to city records.

    At the same time, the city reduced money for stable permanent housing while dramatically increasing its investment in temporary shelters…

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      How is a city spending $200k per homeless resident and still not providing them with housing?

      That’s more than 8 years’ worth of rent/mortgage at $2k per month. And even longer in a more reasonably-priced home.

      I understand there are more expenses than just rent, but I also understand that it’s nearly impossible to get a job if you don’t have a permanent residence. If we’ve got a homelessness crisis that includes working families, why wouldn’t the states want to help those families?

      A rent/mortgage assistance program seems like it would do a lot more long-term good than simply “cleaning up” encampments.

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    Where did all the newsom stans go?

    EDIT: the number of downvotes is the number of people who agree with performative cruelty to homeless people.

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      nobody likes Newsome, but in contrast to the rest of the Dems… he’s actually effective at getting under the GOPs skin. That’s the whole thing.

      GOP doesn’t give a shit about Jefferies yapping on the floor for hours. They don’t care about another “strongly worded letter” from Schumer. And everyone, EVERYONE, hates Pelosi…

      Yes, we all want more people like Mamdani. His policies are everything that I want, that most of us want. But you’d also have to be politically ignorant to not realize that his platform is on shakey ground nationwide. You can do something like Mamdani in a blue stronghold like NY. But across the nation? At this moment in time? No chance, you might as well just hand GOP the keys to power ad infinitium.

      I don’t like Newsome, but I’m not trying to throw the whole country in the toilet waiting for the world to come around to Mamdani. Playing this “all or nothing” game is getting real people killed and lives ruined.

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        if Progressives are supposed to vote blue no matter who, then Centrists can too. If someone like Mamdani beats Newsom in the 2028 primary they can suck it up and vote for him.

        I’ve swallowed loads the past three elections, it’s their turn to take one for the team.

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          “blue no matter who” has always been a cudgel used by “party unity my ass” types.

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          if Progressives are supposed to vote blue no matter who, then Centrists can too. If someone like Mamdani beats Newsom in the 2028 primary they can suck it up and vote for him.

          They should. But like the many left-abstainers in 2024, it remains to be seen if they will.

          If someone like Mamdani runs in the 2028 primary (Mamdani himself being sadly ineligible), they will have my general and primary vote. God forbid a shithead neolib like Newsom gets through.

          But ‘Blue No Matter Who’ is an expression of desperation against the fascists in the GOP, not a magic formula, as much as we wish it was.

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        nobody likes Newsome, but

        followed by 4 paragraphs of “you are going to vote newsom and love it”

        If no one likes him, he’s not gonna win. But let’s face it. Winning isn’t the point. Making sure no progressive is able to run is the point. And you’ll campaign for someone you claim to hate in order to make sure that happens.

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        As long as cynicism is the logic for choosing candidates, we are never going to see real leaders at the helm of the party. But yeah, let’s continue to not have faith voters can do better because the alternative sounds exhausting.

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        Something I don’t think a lot of people realize is that Lincoln was a pretty shitty dude. Modern leftists would crucify him. He had a pretty shitty opinion on civil rights and only put an end to slavery so the fighting would end.

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            So what if I am? Do you actually know much about Lincoln, or just the simplified version they fed you in 3rd grade? I’m not saying Newsom is Lincoln or that this means he should be president, that’s not the point. The point is that even someone widely regarded as one of the “best” presidents is remembered mostly for a single policy, and even that didn’t go far enough on civil rights.

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              The point is that even someone widely regarded as one of the “best” presidents is remembered mostly for a single policy, and even that didn’t go far enough on civil rights.

              Sounds to me like you’re saying that anything newsom does that was acceptable in the 1860s is perfectly fine.

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      Is this the part where you tell us he’s a corpo shill and I should vote third party in protest?

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        Can always count on centrists to conflate criticism and disloyalty in the worst faith possible.

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          Based on what exactly? Your feefees? Look at you using descriptive words beyond rage baiting titles on other people and yet somehow you’re above it? I smell bullshit.

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            Look, asshole, based on my experience living in California. Based on my ability to read newspapers with a critical eye. “Oh, well yes they are going to use police to sweep homeless encampments, but don’t worry, it will be paired with housing and supportive services!” Do you know how long it takes to build the kind of infrastructure that second part requires? Newsom can’t simply snap housing and rehab slots into existence, but he can snap police raids into existence, so that’s what he’ll do.

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              Besides overhauling the economy to better suit everyone, which Newsom has little control over, what other policies and tactics would you like to see used instead?

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                How about don’t crow about abusing the most disadvantaged people in our communities, while pretending you’re solving anything?

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                  Certainly you just have more to say on this. There’s quite a history of California combating homelessness. What programs and tradeoffs have you seen that you prefer? There is diversity within the homeless community. How did you like to see the different groups managed?

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      I’m in Canada, Toronto specifically and the Homeless situation here is just as bad as it is in the US. I do volunteer work for a couple homeless outreach programs and I’d say easily since the pandemic the homeless demographic has drastically changed.

      The stereotype that homeless people are junkies or mentally ill has shattered. The people I’m working with now are, for now, mentally fit and sober. More women than ever, more elderly, more minorities that in the past generally didn’t have many homeless within them because their communities would help prevent them from being homeless i.e. Asians, Muslims, etc

      So. Many. Have jobs. So many have families, children, and they are sleeping rough so that they can simply afford to have their kids or older parents or other family members continue to live with whatever roof they can afford over their heads. There are SO many that are sleeping rough because there is simply no room for them to sleep in the tiny studio apartment they can barely afford with their kids, wives, parents, whatever.

      I’m handing out food to people who dont’ even look homeless. They can’t afford to BUY FOOD. All their money goes to rent or other important bills. I’m dealing with people who were on drugs and alchol who then got sober in hopes to get off the streets and find work only to relapse because there is no work or what work they can get isn’t anywhere near enough to get them off the streets so they slump RIGHT BACK into that hole because, and they’ve told me first hand, “There’s no point.”

      Lines are getting longer every month, The portions for food and other things we hand out are getting smaller because NO ONE can afford to donate ANYTHING anymore anywhere near the amount we need to cover the increasingly rising population we’re working with.

      And none of the politicians could give a flying fuck. None of them. Regardless of what side of the fence they’re on and how far away from said fence they are. We could have fixed this years ago, decades ago, but we chose profits over people. We made this bed a long time ago, It’s almost your turn to get into it.

      For us volunteers this is no longer a battle we’re fighting in hopes of winning. No, at this point we’ve lost. Now we’re just hoping we have enough bandages to slow the bleeding as much as possible before we run out.

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      Even if the reasons where mainly substance use and mental illness, those are still societal issues that require societal solutions through better health care access and overall more social security.

      It is wild to me that in America “Oh you have a mental illness? Well go die then and don’t leave your corpse for me to see!” is somehow a position that is considered acceptable among “progressives”. It is deeply reactionary and a hallmark of fascists.

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    This sounds an awful lot like Louisiana…

    Relocation begins: Jeff Landry’s administration clears New Orleans homeless encampments

    Louisiana coerced unhoused people into an unheated warehouse – and paid $17.5m for it

    It started out as needing to clear everyone out allegedly for security reasons bc of the Bourbon street attacks and the Superbowl, but everyone assumed he was trying to just slap a coat of paint on the city. Then it happened again when there was a big Taylor Swift concert, now it’s like every time “we have company” we should just understand Landry will be rounding up homeless people to make the city more presentable.

    People keep saying Newsome is just doing this kind of shit to prove he’s a centrist Democrat but I’m kinda starting to worry it might be a little more sinister than that.

    Word of advice for California, be very cautious about allowing any state police or task force to permanently or semi permanently set up in your cities. If it gets proposed push back as loud and hard as you legally can, no matter what you local government might indicate about it.

    Homeless sweep ahead of Taylor Swift concert reveals conflict between city, Troop NOLA

    Troop NOLA: What we know about the new Louisiana State Police troop in New Orleans

    Mayor LaToya Cantrell ‘in alignment’ with Gov. Jeff Landry’s crime plan for New Orleans

    And if you can’t stop it from happening make sure your city hammers out even the most obscure details in a contract. If you’re not sure if you need to bother with getting it in writing, you do.

    New Orleans council member pushes city to enter agreement get written agreement on homeless sweeps with State Police

    I changed the original headline bc it’s misleading. It makes it sound like the contract was something city council wanted bc they wanted homeless sweeps. The city pushed for a formal contract bc State police were just doing it without any say from the city on how they rounded people up or where they took them.

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    Behold the sparkle of champagne.
    The crime rate’s gone, feel free again.
    Oh, life’s a breeze with you, Miss Lily White.
    Taylor Swifts on the screen today.
    Convinced the liberals it’s okay.
    So let’s get dressed to dance away the night.

    While they kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight.

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    I was speaking with an older lady about who could be as energizing for the left as Bernie for the next election, I said AOC and maybe Jasmine Crockett on the same ticket. (which is a pipe dream, I’m sure)

    Anyway, she said Gavin Newsom, and didn’t believe me when I said he’s a centrist. And I couldn’t understand why she even felt he’s a leftist. He must have some good pr somewhere that I’m not looking lol

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      Corporate media and billions in oligarchy money.

      It is sad that we keep having to repeat the same thing over and over again yet people refuse to learn. The Democratic party and the Republican party are both tools of the same oligarchy and they both fight against the normal people in different flavors. The Democrats happily gave the last election to Trump instead of stopping an US backed genocide and since then they often cooperated to help Trumps fascist power grab.

      Unless the party is fundamentally changed and all its current and past leaders ousted and disgraced, it cannot be a means for bettering society.

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      People just remember he was the mayor of one of the most liberal cities in the US, so it translates in their head as him being liberal.

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        most name recognition, but in reality his policies always sucked, after he wasnt mayor, he sorta disappeared, because of his lack of charisma, he couldnt get elected multiple times in california. he is a favorite amongst some well off people, but not everyone else. i was there when he was still married to kimberly guillifoyle.

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      Gavin has done what no one else is doing, punching back, speaking Trump’s language. It’s getting attention from all quarters. Meanwhile Dems are busy shutting him down preemptively because purity tests. It’s another fascinating move from the “we don’t want to govern” party.

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        Punching back is the absolute bare minimum requirement for a supposed opposition party (looking at you Schumer and Jeffries).

        But Newsom has been repeatedly demonstrating that he is willing to throw our trans friends and unhoused neighbors under the bus for political points. Ask yourself, if he’s willing to betray one group, what’s stopping him from betraying any other group should he decide that it’s politically expedient?

        This has nothing to do with “purity tests”

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          Thank you for being more eloquent with your reply than I was able to be. That purity test comment made me see red. Where else are disenfranchised groups to go, but to the left? How can we be represented if the only place we can turn refuses to represent us?

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            Comments about purity tests are conversation-terminating cliches that should be downvoted.

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          Ask yourself, if he’s willing to betray one group, what’s stopping him from betraying any other group should he decide that it’s politically expedient?

          That’s the idea. That’s the entire idea. Betrayal of the marginalized is centrists’ whole thing.

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        Newsom can talk ahit about Trump all he likes. Maybe it’ll help instead of just being an empty gesture, we’ll see.

        But even if it succeeds, that doesn’t mean I’m obligated to support him in 2028. Though I might add him to the list of centrists I despise slightly less than the others.

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          many of the people in his state, on the sub, said hes just doing meaningless gestures against trump while ignoring his own states problem

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          He’s redistricting California which, now TWO red states are doing, but only one blue state has accomplished. Will any others?

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            He’s redistricting California

            He got it on the ballot, which is being voted on in November. This is not the same thing as him redistricting the state, and it also gives him a way to be blameless if it fails.

            From what I can tell there isn’t a law that requires districting changes go to a popular vote in California. If I’m wrong on this someone please correct me.

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          What do you think Trump will do to poor people?

          This is every bit the Dems who refused to vote Kamala because of her Palestinian stance - a purity test that helped ensure Trump won, and we’d sit and do nothing as a genocide occurred. But we sure showed Kamala, huh

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            Anyone who unironically uses the phrase “purity test” is just saying that they have no standards and expect everyone to their left to abandon theirs.

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            Isrsael explicitly say they want to do their own version of the holocust and still think it’s not the priority? You had zero moral

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      There’s plenty of left leaning Americans who think Doug Ford is a good guy because he says shit about Trump. It shouldn’t be surprising.

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        To be fair, most Americans don’t pay any attention to Canadian politics (or any other country tbh). So Doug’s jacked up policies go in one ear and out the other because they very broadly don’t affect Americans.

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    I wish they said how long people lived there before becoming homeless.

    Ninety percent of participants became homeless in California, having been last housed in the state.

    This means someone could have moved there there and been housed for a period of time before not being able to make ends meet.

    There’s also this at the end though…

    Two-thirds (66%) were born in California.

    So it seems it’s still a mostly local issue.

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        These comments make it so clear no one is actually fighting for change they are fighting to go back to not caring about politics. Newsom will throw trans people under the bus and the blue maga will tell us that it’s better than what Trump was doing as he continues on the same path. He’ll kill homeless people by the thousands but it will be ok because at least it’s not trump.

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        And he’s only the preordained nominee. We haven’t gone through the kabuki primaries yet.

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      Keep complaining, but also when the system gives us the option between fascism and radical centrism, I’m going to hold my nose and vote for the radical centrist.

      But I’m also going to continue voting in other races, protesting, lobbying my representatives, and trying to effect change in other ways. You should too. Voting in the presidential race is not the start and end of activism.

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      This is the trick the fascists are playing on us. They’ve corrupted both sides, and hope we’ll believe that the one that is “less fascist” will be able to save us from the one that’s “more fascist”. NOPE, surprise, it’s fascism all the way down! The game is rigged, the trap is sprung, the only winning move is not to play.

      If you’re familiar with the 4 boxes of liberty, it’s time to understand that the ballot box has already failed us and abandon the idea that we can vote our way out of this mess. We’re past that. We’re firmly in the jury box stage right now and it’s not looking too promising with the amount of judicial interference going on, the administration flaunting rulings that don’t go in their favor, and the supreme court stacked.

      With the fourth box, understand that the first and possibly even most potent ammunition you will ever have access to is free speech. But it will also be the first to run out. Use what’s left of it while you still can. Be vocal. Be a shit disturber. Many people need their shit disturbed, some need it to wake them up with the information they’re not willing to accept, others need it because they’re fascists themselves. Disturb them. Attend protests. Prepare to go on strike. Collective action is more powerful than people give it credit for. The country cannot function without wage-slaves feeling chained to their jobs, clinging to it like a lifeline and too afraid that rocking the boat will see them let go. This is a method of control. Prepare for turmoil and disruption. Find people who can help you and support you when things go south. Seek community and resilience, find people who will look out for you, and do what you can to look out for them. Find ways to organize if you can. There is strength in numbers. The clock is ticking, and it’s not going to wait for you to be ready. Get ready now, and get involved. This is everyone’s fight, and if you’re not already fighting, you’re late, get moving.