This is so annoying. Even though I’m not a fan of porn games on the whole, it is extremely irritating that payment systems can decide how and when you can spend your own fucking money. We’re not seven, anymore. We can take care of ourselves.
It smacks of the idiotic “babyproofing” of clearly adult spaces everywhere except bars, these days. Antiquated moral panics, just like 1954’s lavender scare all over again.
Steam: I consent
Adult eroge players: I consent
Payment companies: I don’t
Luckly I. can buy anime porn games straight from source dev. Just checked and my Treasure Hunter Claire is still in my library, so guess this affects only unbought games? But I also bought the game direct too.
I mean, that’s exactly how third party payment systems have always worked. 🙄
I guess you can always try buying your porn game with Bitcoin or something.
“we have always done it like that” is not an argument for of against anything. It is a mere observation.
At the workplace if anybody says “we’ve always done it this way” during a meeting where we tackle a problem, that means it’s time to change the hubris because it clearly doesn’t work for us anymore.
not an argument for of against anything
Right. It’s a system of economic exchange, not a moral position. There are ways around this system, but they’re time consuming and annoying to accomplish. So the vendors tend to take the path of least resistance when setting their internal policies. You were taught about Free Markets as this perfect, frictionless vacuum of interactions between buyers and sellers, but it doesn’t work that way and never did.
For some reason, people seem to confuse being naive and gullible with being moral and upstanding.
Then why are they enforcing moral standards?
Here I am, reading it as
why are they enforcing moral standards
I guess you can always try buying your porn game with Bitcoin or something.
No you can’t, PayPal made Valve remove them. Not remove the PayPal option for those specific titles.
PayPal made Valve remove them
You can buy games outside of the Steam store.
Did PayPal actually make valve remove them or did PayPal just say they didn’t want to provide payment processors for them and valve couldn’t be bothered to come up with a solution?
I can’t see why Paypal would care one way or the other if the games were available on the platform as long as PayPal don’t have to process the payment.
“what’re you doing son”
“mining for porn”
Daylight or dark,
In rain or shine,
It don’t much matter
Down in the mine.
Where the tunnel’s deep,
Lord the air gets thin,
That’s the way of life
For the minin’ man.
Payment processors and financial institutions sure do seem to hold disproportionate amounts of power.
Doing the right thing for the wring reason if you ask me. I don’t think it was ever a good idea to sell incest games in the first place, but banning them because they make payment processors uncomfortable ? Fuck that.
I don’t want payment processors to be the arbiters of what we are allowed to play !
While I personally have absolutely no incestual relationship desires, the only rational reason be against incest is really because there is the consanguinity issue, which can result in genetic deficiencies. Same-sex incest is for example, legal in Ireland and Germany.
Morally speaking… I too find it icky, but I’m pretty sure this is the result of how we were raised to think of it as being icky. As long as everyone involved able to legally consent, and there is no abusive power dynamic in the relationship, I really don’t judge. To each their own! Just don’t involve me in it! LOL
Even opposite-sex incest became legal in Sweden a couple years back. The law previously said “forbidden to have sexual intercourse with a sibling”, but they changed it to “forbidden to have vaginal intercourse with a sibling”. No idea if it was the (right-wing) government’s intention to legalize gay-brother-sex at the same time, but here we are.
Any game featuring most kinds of animal, including people, is evidence that sex occurred. We should ban those too.
If a game exists, a person made it and that person exists because someone had sex. It’s disgusting how people pay to play that sort of filth.
It’s funny, Patreon cracked down years ago on Incest content forcing indie porn devs to do *nudge *nudge *wink she’s your “Landlady” stuff. I guess paypal just assumed Steam was cleaner until now.
And then they release an “unofficial patch”.
The reason might be a slippery slope or whatever, but there’s mountains of disgusting visual novel incest fantasy shit, so much that I had to filter out all sexual content from Steam even though I might enjoy occasional Sex With the Devil or some Genital Jousting.
I prefer to do my genital jousting IRL, and not video game format. I just go up to random dudes at the urinal and challenge them.
I’m going to file this as “untagged satire”… right? RIGHT???
He has a butthole right in his username.
If your butthole looks like a spiral, I’m sorry for your condition, and hope you get better soon. Thoughts and prayers!
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Joust me and find out.
What goal do the payment processors have for doing things like this, is it just that they like knowing that they have the ability to control what you are and aren’t allowed to enjoy? I ask this because normally, when services change their policies, it’s done to improve profits. But from what I can tell, the payment processors can only lose money because they are eliminating potential revenue sources.
I will admit that I have no interest in any of the games that were removed, I’ve never even heard of them before today, but I don’t agree with payment processors having the ability to sensor content over some schizo bullshit.
Porn-related transactions have a higher than average rate of chargebacks. Maybe post-nut clarity motivates people to say “wait hold on I shouldn’t have spent that money, I must’ve been hacked.” Or maybe it’s people saving face when confronted with a transaction log from their spouse or other family members. Or maybe it’s just the type of transaction that actual card fraudsters gravitate towards, so that there really is a higher percentage of unauthorized transactions.
Gambling-related merchants also have a similar problem with payment processors. For many of them, it’s just straightforward business concerns, not any kind of ethical issue in itself.
The problem with that is that, at least with PayPal, they charge a fee to the service provider (Steam, in this case) for chargebacks. And, from what I’ve heard, that fee is significantly more than the original cost.
Every credit card company charges large fees to the service provider for charge backs. It’s standard practice. This is also leads to service providers straight up perma-banning customers who initiate charge backs instead of resolving a dispute with the provider.
Chargebacks are incredibly expensive, yes.
It could also be the result of government pressure. Which government? No idea, but it may be easier to implement it system wide than try to build a regional filter to ban payments in one country but allow it in others.
I guess so, most (if not all) governments do like abusing their power.
Damn it… I was really looking forward to Brother Mother Buttfucker 2.
Is that a new song from PSY?
payment providers are way to powerful
Copy Epic’s model of selling “Sbucks” or similar, which you then spend on those games. Problem solved.
I think it’s not that easy. From what I understand, the payment providers enforce that for the whole store, otherwise they don’t want to be involved. Quite shitty, but they have enough weight to pull shit like that off.
We already have Steam Marketplace. You can buy stuff with your Steam Wallet.
You can literally just “buy” stuff, and put whatever your currency is, in your wallet. so the transaction was already made, to no specific product. How are they able to track that, is utter nonsense. This is just the companies forcing them to do their bidding. I mean if those games have questionable content (and by that I mean pedophilia or zoophilia), I do agree with that, and I feel that is a responsibility from Valve itself, not other companies.
This explains why I can’t buy games right now. I tried to use PayPal and it failed but now my account seems to be blocked from any purchase. Not even direct card. When I asked support they demanded a screenshot of my cart.
Dude, Gabe, I just want to play outer wilds. There’s no tits, let alone incest in Outer wilds. I’ve never bought a porn game in my life. Why am I being punished for a billionaire company’s moral panic?
This has ruined my life.
You don’t realize it yet, but you have been saavvveeeeddddd by these wonnerful deee-sigh-pulls of Jesus! Can I get an “AMEN,” brothers & sisters?!?
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I just want to jack off to video games and feel bad about it after. Why is the world intent on interfering with my tear jerking???
So what you’re saying is we need a religious themed sex game? I think I follow. You have to fight your way through the 12 apostles and then you and Jesus bang. Its like Mortal Kombat, but with sandals and a lot of baby oil.
That’d mean Jesus was at least bi, if not outright gay. Hmm… might just test the waters with him in order to watch MAGAts completely lose their shit…
Rip Sex Villagers
There is no sex in
SUUS.This is not even exclusive to US. Those payment processors actually even tried to shut down some specific japanese dating sites/apps.
