• Fives@discuss.online
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    8 days ago

    The super-wealthy are a cancer on society, and just like cancer, they suck up all of the resources while killing the patient.

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    12 days ago

    Bill Ackman, a billionaire hedge fund manager who has backed President Donald Trump in the past, on Thursday pledged to use his money to bankroll a challenger to Mamdani in the general election.

    Case in point.

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      12 days ago

      And how did he get those billions? How many peoples necks did he have to step on to climb his way up. It’s not so much what you do with your billions, it’s how you got them that makes you evil. The only exception to this is probably Bezos ex wife, maybe.

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    11 days ago

    Even the billionaires would be better off without billinaires. It their relative ranking was the same they would still have more money than they could spend but it would now come with clean air, water, land, better infrastructure, a healthier world, happier people to interact with.

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      11 days ago

      What do the billionaires buy that pollutes nature that much?

      The pollution comes from millions of cars, chemicals for products like clothing and intense agriculture so that everybody can eat some form of meat.

      Billionaires allow us to feel helpless while we could agree with our neighbors to reduce the ecological footprint of society to a minimum.

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        11 days ago

        Im not saying that. Its the wealth inequality that stunts society. People don’t have the resources to make decisions based on whats best and have to deal with what they can afford. Lack of infrastructure and regulators results in more pollution.

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          People don’t have the resources to make decisions based on whats best

          People have still more than many others on the world. Illegal immigrants have less, and they have to pay off their traffickers.

          This mindset is a prison. The people have the power, they are just sure that they don’t have it. A beautiful display of mind control.

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            I would argue the trap is in the other way. Your reply reminds me a lot of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vjaimSK4E . You may think you know how good the average american has it but you may not understand stand the unique challenges of various americans in many different situations. Wealth disparity is the trap and the only way toward freedom is a society were it is not so extreme.

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              10 days ago

              and the only way toward freedom is a society were it is not so extreme.

              That is not a way. Who should create the society?

              OP argued that there are no resources left. Well, then that’s the way till the robots make humans unnecessary.

              If people want to get out, they have to do something. Don’t work harder, consume smarter. Not the poorest have to start but those who make two vacations per year. Spend that money wisely and grow from there.

              Thanks for the song.

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                we should create such a society with taxation and regularion. resources are finite but we have them left and I agree we have to use them wisely. I often point out that we would get in excess of a barrels worth of oil for every one spent in the heyday of the oil age but now we just get a few but wind/solar/etc lets us recoup way more energy per barrel again.

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      11 days ago

      ethics should mean infants are innocent until they perform actions, yet if the infants parents were billionaires and died the infant would be a billionaire without performing any action.

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      11 days ago

      All these guys just say what the public wants to hear before election.

      Behind the scenes, this guy wants to be a billionarie, and the way there is to make a political career, saying whatever is popular with the voters.

      There is no risk of being shot because all this guy is doing is trying to get popular, just like every other political guy before him. He wont be able to get rid of billionaries even if he wanted to.

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          I thought he was a nominee? Article says that anyway. But still, there is zero chance that any of these guys will make any changes that are helping the ordinary people and hurts billionaries. Its a system where they have money and power and most of the citizens do not.

          People are desperate for hope, and thats why his strategy is working. It is simular to Trumps own strategy also. They all come out and act as if they represent the ordinary people, and everyone buys it every time.

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                Inflation is as 2.4%. A much as I hate to say it, it isnt that had.

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                  Inflation doesn’t feel great but the cost of groceries is a different metric. Grocery prices are still up and rising faster than inflation.

                  In my opinion groceries probably should cost more but rent and several other expenses should be far lower. How long ago was it that budgeting 1/3 of income for food was considered normal?

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        11 days ago

        I’m pro LGBTQ, anti-israel, against consumerism/capitalism, pro socialism. Pro government control on key infrastructure (water, gas, electricity) and better housing and support services. Pro climate policies, pro taxing the rich.

        But I’m also against fossil fuel bans, against bans on firearms, pro military for defence, pro free-speech, pro strict immigration, against ‘PC’ culture, against trans-women in women’s sports, pro merit success.

        Am I left or right? …Or centrist?

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            In women’s sport, I just don’t think it’s fair to women to compete against trans-women* who are stronger than them. I only beleive that out of fairness, but I think people have every right to do what they want with their bodies and be accepted for who they are.

            Where another person’s rights begin, another’s ends type of thing.

            ** EDIT: Clarifycation of ‘trans-women’ at the astrick, was just ‘women’ before

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              You’re right, it’s completely unfair for women to compete against women who are stronger than them. For the weightlifting they should test every woman’s strength, and only the weakest woman competes. That’s fair.

              and,

              We definitely shouldn’t let trans women compete in women’s chess, because of the biological advantage/s

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                11 days ago

                That is not what I am saying. You’re trying to make an enemy out of me when I am not, it’s almost a strawmans argument you just made.

                https://womeninsport.org/transgender-inclusion-womens-sport/

                After 12 months: In studies which recorded the retained muscle mass/strength, there was an average of 25% residual advantage for transgender women at 12 months treatment compared with reference a group of females. After 12 months of testosterone suppression, transgender women remained 48% stronger, with 35% larger quadriceps mass compared with the control population of females. After more than two years of follow-up on testosterone suppression recent research citing retrospective data from military personnel in the US has shown that transgender women retain an advantage in running speed, at a residual of some 12% faster than the known normative values for females.

                What is your opinion on this, truely? This organisation literally supports trans-women being in sport but has to admit that they are uniquely stronger and faster than born-women. It’s an unfortunate reality but I personally believe that we can support transgender women without disenfranchising born-women. I’m just being pragmatic about it.

                And for clarifycation, I don’t think there should be classes in chess.

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                  11 days ago

                  That is not what I am saying.

                  No, it is what you said. It’s just not what you mean. It’s not my fault the two are separate. It’s your responsibility to speak clearly if you don’t want the silly things you say to be mocked.

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                  There are a number of other genes linked to athletic outcomes that are way more influential than “12% above average”. Steroid usage is rampant in top teir sports for instance and people with like genetic kidney conditions that overproduce some hormones have a far greater advantage.

                  The people doing the sports should be making the rules about sports, not a bunch of armchair theorists with calipers. Most the guys who have A LOT OF OPINIONS on how to gatekeep womens sports don’t actually watch any women’s sports.

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          Let’s take the obvious “Pro military for defense” first since that’s the most insane thing to think is a contentious political issue.

          There are 30% of people in the US that think aliens are real and have visited their asshole but you will not find 5% of people in america that oppose the military as a concept.

          What you’re doing here is being manipulated by people who want you to think some of these things are Important Issues™

          The trans women in sports is a great example of propaganda. It was cooked up by a conservative think tank. How many people are affected by this “problem”? Maybe 200? And in most cases sports organizations themselves often have rules in place like “how long you’d have to have been on hormone therapy to qualify.” That is already more or less a solved problem for most the people it actually affects. People playing sports didnt come up with the “trans people in sports issue”, a think tank did.

          So what you are …is manipulated by think tanks and propaganda and in a way that causes you to oppose people who otherwise have common interests with you.

          There’s only two real political philosophies and they can be summed up as “fuck you, I got mine” and “we’re all in this together.” I will tell you right now only the “fuck you, I got mine” group has any real interest in dehumanizing people by say, having the government ban trans people from public spaces and public activities like sports.

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            11 days ago

            And yet the comments and downvotes shows how contentious it is which I knew it would be when I wrote it.

            I know the trans-women in sport issue is almost non-existent but it’s probably the biggest talking point in the comments it seems.

            Personally I agree with you. I always vote left and am more of a “we’re in in together” mindset.

            Either way, thank you for you insight!

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    11 days ago

    This needs to become the mainstream opinion. Billionaires and ultra wealthy shouldn’t exist. There is no trickling down or any of that stolen wealth coming back into the hands of average people.

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      11 days ago

      They will just live in other countries if being a billionaire is illegal.